||Builders #||Built as||Current location.....||Current owner and #||
||DL&W 952||Alco 4-4-0||1905||St. Louis, MO||Museum of Trans||preserved/display||(DL&W 952) (Museum of Trans)|
||DL&W 565||Alco 2-6-0||1908||45528||Scranton, PA||Steamtown||preserved||(DL&W 565) (D&MM) (Steamtown)|
||DL&W 3001||Alco/GE Boxcab||1926||10026||DLW 3001||Union, IL||Illinois Rwy museum||preserved||(DL&W 3001) (Ingersoll Rand 91)|
||DL&W 426||EMC SC||3-1935||516||DL&W426||Scranton, PA||DL 426||DL&W black||operating!||(DL&W 426) (Bethlehem Steel 109) (DL 426)|
||EL 307||Alco S1||10-1946||74962||Erie 307||Manhattan, NY||NYCH 25||NYC scheme||display||(Erie 307) (EL 307) (BEDT25) (NYCH 25)|
|EL 308||Alco S1||11-1946||74963||Erie 308||Gowanda, NY||NYLE 308||??||operating||(Erie
308) (EL 308) (PCH 308)(NYLE 308)
||EL 310||Alco S1||1-1947||75121||Erie 310||North Judson, IN||HVRM 310||EL 310||preserved/operating||(Erie
310) (EL 310) (HVRM 310)
||EL 315||Alco S1||9-1947||75356||Erie 315||Galena, KS||privately owned||EL black/yellow||display||(Erie 315) (EL 315) see *note9|
||EL 321||Alco S1||4-1950||77080||Erie 321||Mississippi||MSRW 321||MSRW Blue
||operating||(Erie 321) (EL 321) (Mississippian Railway 321)|
|EL 352||EMD SW1||4-1940||1051||DL&W 430||Marion, OH||UTLX 12226||??||operating||(DL&W 430) (EL 352) (Virginia Blue Ridge 10)(UTLX 12226)|
||EL 354||EMD SW1||4-1940||1053||DL&W 432||Valdosta, GA||UTLX 12227||light blue||operating||(DL&W 432) (EL 354) (Virginia Blue Ridge 12)(UTLX 12227)|
|EL 357||EMD SW1||5-1940||1056||DL&W 435||Memphis, TN||GMS 1200||??||operating||(DL&W 345) (EL 357) (Kelly Contractors #1) (MST #1)(GMS 1200)|
|EL 359||EMD SW1||5-1940||1058||DL&W 437||Bossier City, LA||HA 8001||??||operating||(DL&W 357)(EL 359)(LE 359)(M&O 359) (GH 359, 668)(HA 8001)|
||EL 324||Alco HH660||1940||69257||DL&W 409||Portage, IN||Joseph Behr and Sons||??||operating||(DL&W 409) (EL 324) (Relco 603)|
|EL 364||EMD SW8||8-1951||14067||DL&W 504||Morristown, IN||Morristown Grain 8693||CR Blue||operating 9/25/2006||(DL&W 504)(EL 364)(CR 8693)(HCRR 8693)(MGCo 8693)|
|EL 368||EMD SW8||6-1952||15729||DL&W 508||Burnham, PA||SS 6731||??||operating||(DL&W 508)(EL 368)(CR 8697)(SS 6731)|
|EL 369||EMD SW8||6-1952||15730||DL&W509||Port Clinton, PA||R&N 800||R&N Green||operating||(DL&W 509)(EL 369)(CR 8698)(R&N 800)|
||EL 405||EMD NW2||1-1948||5130||Erie 405||S. Pittsburg, TN||SQVR 1686||CR blue||stored||(Erie 405) (EL 405) (CR 9212) (SQVR 1686)|
||EL 412||EMD NW2||1-1948||5137||Erie 412||Ringoes, NJ||BR&W 820||black||operating||(Erie 412) (EL 412) (CR 9219) (BR&W 820)|
|EL 423||EMD NW2||11-1949||8912||Erie 423||Coatesville PA||BVRY 8201 (2nd)||??|| see
||(Erie 423) (EL 423) (CR 9230) (BVRY 8204 (1st))(BVRY 8201(2nd))|
||EL 436||EMD SW9||4-1952||15934||Erie 436||NJ||URHS of NJ||Erie 436||preserved/operating||(Erie 436) (EL 436) (CR 9012) (NJDOT)(URHSofNJ)|
||EL 438||EMD SW9||4-1952||15936||Erie 438||NJ||URHS of NJ||SMS Green||preserved/operating||(Erie 438) (EL 438) (CR 9014) (NJDOT)(URHSofNJ))|
|EL 440||EMD SW9||4-1952||16174||Erie 440||Enderlin, ND||ADM 9016||??||operating||(Erie 440) (EL 440) (CR 9016)(ADM 9016)|
|EL 446||EMD SW9||6-1951||14068||DL&W 551||Coatesville PA||BVRY 8202 (2nd)||??||operating||(DL&W 551) (EL 446) (CR 9017)(BVRY 8202 (2nd))|
|EL 456||EMD SW1200||6-1957||23762||DL&W 561||Northlake, IL||DRSX 1210||DL&W 561||operating||(DL&W 561)(EL 456)(CR 9320)(DRSX 1210)*note4|
|EL 457||EMD SW1200||6-1957||23763||DL&W 562||Brooklyn, NY||NY&A 9321||L&I 9321||operating||(DL&W 562)(EL 457)(CR 9321)(NY&A 9321)|
||EL 458||EMD SW1200||?-1957||27364||DL&W 563||Taft, FL||Florida Rock Indus..||CR blue||operating||(DL&W 563)(EL 458)(CR 9322)(Florida Rock Industries)|
||EL 459||EMD SW1200||5-1957||23765||DL&W 564||Coatesville PA||BVRY 9008 (2nd)||red & blue||operating||(DL&W 564)(EL 459)(CR 9325)(UM&P 9008 (2nd))(BVRY 9008(2nd))|
|EL 461||EMD SW1200||?-1957||27367||DL&W 566||Inwood, FL||Florida Rock Indus.||??||operating||(DL&W 566) (EL 461) (CR 9325)(Florida Rock Industries)|
|EL 462||EMD SW1200||6-1957||23768||DL&W 567||Los Angeles, CA||PHL 32||??||operating||(DL&W 567)(EL 462)(CR 9326)(PHL 9326)(PHL 32)|
|EL 505||Alco S2||11-1946||73892||Erie 505||??||Relco 801 (repowered)||??||operating||(Erie 505) (EL 505) (Relco 801)|
|EL 513||Alco S2||7-1947||75362||Erie 513||??||Relco 1016||??||operating||(Erie 513) (EL 513) (Relco 1016)|
||EL 518||Alco S2||1948||76188||Erie 518||Meadville PA
||FCVRRHS 518||black & yellow
518) (EL 518) (CEI 518) (AC&J 518)(FCVRRHS) see *note 12
|EL 528||Alco S4||10-1952||80089||Erie 528||Lima, OH||Cargill 8000A (repowered)||??||operating||(Erie
|EL 530||Alco S2||12-1947||75550||Erie 530||??||Relco 1017||??||operating||(Erie 530) (EL 530) (D&H 3012) (Relco 1017)|
||EL 543||Alco S2||6-1949||76791||DL&W 484||Chase, AL||N. AL RR museum||Red/Gold||preserved||(DL&W 484) (EL 543) (Reynolds Metal) (preserved as NC&StL 484)|
||EL 833||EMD E8||3-1951||12231||Erie 833||Philadelphia, Pa||Juniata Terminal 833||Conrail||stored servicable||(Erie 833) (EL 833) (Conrail "Executive E" 4022)(Juniata Terminal 833)|
||EL 1040||Alco RS3||3-1950||78077||DL&W 902||Federalsburg, MD||Maryland & Delaware||MDDE Red||operating||(DL&W 902) (EL 1040) (CR 5256)(CR 9926) (MDDE 1202) *note 1|
||EL 1048||Alco RS3||4-1951||78578||DL&W 910||Cannan,CT||Housatonic||black & yellow||operating||(DL&W 910) (EL 1048) (CR 5264)(CR 9935) ((HRR 9935) *note1|
||EL 1049||Alco RS3||3-1952||79667||DL&W 911||Federalsburg, MD||Maryland & Delaware||MDDE Red||operating||(DL&W 911) (EL 1049) (CR 5265)(CR 9999) (MDDE 1201) *note 1|
||EL 1050||Alco RS3||1952||79668||DL&W 912||Danbury, CT||Danbury RR Museum||MN blue||preserved||(DL&W 912) (EL 1050) (CR 5266)(CR 9905) (MN9905) (MN605) *note 1|
||EL 1052||Alco RS3||3-1952||79670||DL&W 914||Federalsburg, MD||Maryland & Delaware||MDDE Red||operating||(DL&W 914) (EL 1052) (CR 5268)(CR 9942) (MDDE 1203) *note 1|
||EL 1202||EMD GP7||10-1950||11834||Erie 1202||Tamora, NE||UFC GP8 1096||CR blue||operating||(Erie 1202) (EL 1202) (CR 5932) (CR GP8 5455) (UFC 1096)|
||EL 1207||EMD GP7||10-1950||11839||Erie 1207||Naples, IL||CG&B GP8 9210||CMGN scheme||operating.||see *note2 for history.|
|EL 1214||EMD GP7||12-1950||12008||Erie 1214||Pineville,
||ECRX GP8 5408||??||operating||(Erie 1214) (EL 1214) (CR 5728) (CR GP8 5408) (OC 5408) (ECRX 5408)|
||EL 1278||EMD GP7||4-1952||15720||DL&W 959||Lehigh, IL||Lehigh Stone GP8 5460||Conrail blue||operating!||(DL&W 959) (EL 1278) (CR 5993)(rebuilt to CR GP8 5460)|
||EL 2401||Alco C424||1963||3358-1||EL 2401||Lakeville, NY||LAL 424||LAL black/yellow||operating||(EL 2401) (CR 2475) (ST & D&H 70/450) (GTI 450) (LAL 424)|
|EL 2405||Alco C424||1963||84547||EL 2405||??||NRE||MNNR red||OOS||(EL 2405) (CR 2479) (D&H 462) (G&W 62) (GTI 62) (MNNR 62) *note 5|
||EL 2407||Alco C424||1963||3358-7||EL 2407||Lakeville, NY||LAL 423||LAL black/yellow||operating||(EL 2407) (CR 2481) (D&H 454) (MEC 454) (GTI 453) (LAL 423)|
|EL 2408||Alco C424||1963||84550||EL 2408||??||NRE||MNNR red||OOS||(EL 2408) (CR 2482) (D&H 463) (G&W 63) (GTI 63) (MNNR 63) *note 5|
||EL 2414||Alco C424||1963||3358-14||EL 2414||Cohocton, NY||B&H 422 (LAL)||LAL black/yellow||operating||(EL 2414) (CR 2488) (D&H 455/74) (ST 74) (MEC 451) (GTI 451) (BH 422)|
||EL 2452||Alco C425||Oct-64||3392-02||EL 2452||Scranton, PA||GVT - DL 2452||EL colors||out of service||(EL 2452) (BC Rail 802) (DL 2452)|
|EL 2453||Alco C425||Oct-64||3392-03||EL 2453||Utica, NY||GVT - MHWA 2453||GVT white||operating||(EL 2453) (BC Rail 803) (MHWA 2453)|
|EL 2454||Alco C425||Oct-64||3392-04||EL 2454||Scranton, PA||GVT - MHWA804||BC 2-tone green||operating||(EL 2454) (BC Rail 2454) (MHWA 804)|
||EL 2455||Alco C425||Oct-64||3392-05||EL 2455||Utica, NY||GVT - MHWA 805||BC 2-tone green||operating||(EL 2455) (BC Rail 2405) (MHWA 805)|
||EL 2456||Alco C425||Oct-64||3392-06||EL 2456||Scranton, PA||GVT - MHWA 2456||BC 2-tone green||out of service||(EL 2456) (BC Rail 2406) (MHWA 2456)|
||EL 2461||Alco C425||Oct-64||3392-11||EL 2461||Scranton, PA||GVT - DL 2461||EL colors||operating||(EL 2451) (BC Rail 811) (DL 2461)|
||EL 2576||EMD GP35||?-1965||30608||EL 2576||Chile||Fepasa SD39-2M 2356||Fepasa blue||operating||(EL 2576) (CR 3682) (Fepasa 2356) converted to a SD39-2M|
||EL 2582||EMD GP35||?-1965||30614||EL 2582||Chile||Fepasa SD39-2M 2355||Fepasa blue||operating||(EL 2582) (CR 3688) (Fepasa 2355) converted to a SD39-2M|
||EL 3367||GE U34CH||4-1971||EL 3367||Brazil||ALL - Brazil
||future uncertain||*See note 7 below|
||EL 3372||GE U34CH||4-1970||37650||EL 3372||NJ||URHS of NJ||EL
||preserved||(EL 3372) (CR4172) (NJDOT) (NJTransit) (URHS of NJ)|
||EL 3380||GE U34CH||1-1973||38755||EL 3380||Brazil||ALL - Brazil
||future uncertain||*See note 7 below|
||EL 803||EMD SD45||EMD 4354||Mexico||TFM railroad||TFM grey||operating.||ex-D&H, nee-EMD demo 4354|
||EL 3607||EMD SD45||6-1967||33107||EL 3607||St. Louis, MO||Museum of Trans||restored to EL!||preserved||(EL 3607)(CR 6072)|
||EL 3632||EMD SD45||5-1968||33947||EL 3632||Altoona||NS Q#1||grey||test unit||(EL 3632)(CR 6097) (CR and NS Q#1) (NS 1000) *note 3|
||EL 3639||EMD SDP45||6-1969||34980||EL 3639||Roanoke, VA||Va Musem of Trans.||CR blue||preserved||(EL 3639) (CR 6670) (NW 6670) (EL 3639)|
||EL 3655||EMD SDP45||7-1970||36559||EL 3655||roaming free||HLCX 6515||HLCX red/blue||operating||(EL 3655) (CR 6686) (rebuilt VMV) (MK 9510) (HLCX 6515)|
||EL 3657||EMD SDP45||7-1970||36561||EL 3657||YCR SD45-2 332
||MRL blue||operating -
||(EL 3657) (CR 6688) (Wrecked 11/11/73 rebuilt with SD45-2 long hood) (MK 9512) (MRL 332) (YCR 332) *note 13|
||EL 3659||EMD SDP45||7-1970||36563||EL 3659||Webb City,
||UP SD40M-2 2772||SP patch||stored -
||(EL 3659) (CR 6690) (rebuilt VMV) (SP 8696) (UP 2772)|
||EL 3666||EMD SDP45||8-1970||36884||EL 3666||.||WAMX
(CR 6697) (rebuilt VMV) (SP 8693) (UP 2769)(NREX 2769) (WAMX 4214)
||EL 3668||EMD SDP45||8-1970||36886||EL 3368||Webb City, MO.||UP SD40M-2 2768||UP||stored - 2014||(EL 3668) (CR 6699) (rebuilt VMV) (SP 8692) (UP 2768)|
||EL 3669||EMD SD45-2||10-1972||7381-1||EL 3669||NS system||NS 1700||EL
(CR 6654) (NS
1700) - repainted into EL colors in 2015!
||EL 3670||EMD SD45-2||10-1972||7381-2||EL 3670||NS system||NS 1701||NS Horsehead||operating
||(EL 3670) (CR 6655) (NS 1701)|
||EL 3672||EMD SD45-2||10-1972||7381-4||EL 3672||CSX system||CSX SD45-2 8973||CSX Dark Future||operating 1-2-05||(EL 3672) (CR 6657) (CSX 8973)|
||EL 3673||EMD SD45-2||10-1972||7381-5||EL 3673||CSX system||CSX SD45-2 8974||CSX Dark Future||operating||(EL 3673) (CR 6658) (CSX 8974)|
||EL 3674||EMD SD45-2||10-1972||7381-6||EL 3674||NS system||NS 1702||NS Horsehead||operating
||(EL 3674) (CR 6659) (NS 1702)|
||EL 3676||EMD SD45-2||10-1972||7381-8||EL 3676||CSX system||CSX SD40-2 8886||CSX||operating 3-8-05||(EL 3676) (CR 6661) (CSX 8886)|
||EL 3677||EMD SD45-2||10-1972||7381-9||EL 3677||NS system||NS 1703||operating - 9/16/2012||(EL 3677) (CR 6662) (NS 1703)|
||EL 3678||EMD SD45-2||10-1972||7381-10||EL 3678||CSX system||CSX SD40-2 8889||CSX Dark Future||operating||(EL 3678) (CR 6663) (CSX 8889)|
||EL 3679||EMD SD45-2||10-1972||7381-11||EL 3679||NS system||NS 1704||NS Horsehead||operating - 7/29/2012||(EL 3679) (CR 6664) (NS 1704)|
||EL 3681||EMD SD45-2||10-1972||7381-13||EL 3681||NS system||NS 1705||NS Horsehead||operating
||(EL 3681) (CR 6666) (NS 1705)|
The status of these locomotives is unclear.
still surviving? scrapped? we dont know...
if you have any info on any of these, please let me know!
EL U33C were rebilt by GE as "cabless drones" and sent to China
in the 1980's.
current survivor status of these units is unknown.
one of the three was EL 3313.
Photo of 3313 can be seen at: http://www.morscher.com/rr/sort_79-86date.htm
"AT GE PLANT, PAINTED FROM CONRAIL NUMBERS BACK IN EL NUMBERS FOR AN ERIE LACKAWANNA HISTORICAL SOCIETY MEETING. THIS UNIT THEN WAS SENT TO TIA BAO MINES IN CHINA. L. S. MELIN PHOTO"
photo taken 9/28/1985
The Saga of SDP45 6634
6634 anyone know where she is? (EL 3656)
She was auctioned off by CP on July 11, 2002
museum at Spooner? http://www.railfan.net/lists/erielack-digest/200207/msg00269.html (it is now believed this never happened)
or Rail World Inc.? (AARX) (Ed Burkhardt) http://www.railfan.net/lists/erielack-digest/200207/msg00328.html
Im still looking for Wisconsin Central 6634! ;)
several differing reports of her status/demise are floating about. there are SIX conflicting theorys!
museum at Spooner? http://www.railfan.net/lists/erielack-digest/200207/msg00269.html
(it is now believed this never happened)
2. Rail World Inc.? (AARX) (Ed Burkhardt) http://www.railfan.net/lists/erielack-digest/200207/msg00328.html
3. Was perhaps Indiana Harbor Belt (IHB) 7601 for a time..then to GE.
4. Went to GE as a leaser, then to Larrys truck & electric, then scrapped by Larry.
5. sold and went to Mexico in 2003.
6. Will become IHB 7601 *after* rebuilding in Mexico!
I have seen no photo evidence of an actual IHB 7601.
is likely scrapped by now..but with all the conflicting info, its hard
to know for sure!
The most likely scenerio is that after being sold by CP, she was a GE leaser, sold to Larry, then scrapped by Larry.
but the "sold to Mexico" story adds in an interesting twist..she wouldnt be sold to Mexico (presumably by Larry), AND also scrapped by Larry!
you cant have both..
So im giving it 90% odds "scrapped at Larry's truck and electric"
and 10% odds she still exists in Mexico..can anyone really confirm either way?
Update, January 5, 2009.
ok! found something new..
Here is the likely fate for 6634, combining many of the above theorys into one story, which IMO is very likely the correct story:
wrote on January-03-2008, 09:36 PM
Here's what I found on former WC 6634:
Serial #: 36660
Order #: 7246-3
Build Date: 7/70
- CR 6687
-- VMVX 6687
--- MKCX 9511
---- HLCX 7002
----- WC 6634
------ IHB 7601
Apparently, WC sold it to Railworld, who in turn sold it to IHB, and it was sent to Mexico for rebuilding, where it was apparently scrapped. It never shows up on any IHB roster.
Info from trainweb.org/emdloco and the erielack email list @ railfan.net.
July 15, 2009.
Im recieved an email from a railroad employee (I wont post his name here)
who confirmed 6634 was definately scrapped in mexico..
he has paperwork to prove it..
so that's that then..farewell to EL 3656 :(
was one of the stored SDP45's that sat in Sayre, PA in 1985/1986.
I last saw here there, stored as CR 6687.
Some of the U34CH were in Mexico in 1996, any recent news on them?
U34CH 3367 was operating in Mexico as recently as December
2003, as Alstom 4167.
in new Alstom paint!
she may still be operating! need to confirm.
update! June 2006, 3367 was spotted in Texas, heading for parts unknown.
see note 7 below.
U34CH 3376 was spotted operating in Mexico in 2001.
Last reported as Vulcan Materials 4685(possibly scrapped?)
Ex-VM 8, EL 312, Erie 312
Last reported as Carolina Piedmont RR 2(possibly scrapped?)
Ex-Metals Processing 2, Hercules Powder 63, EL 350, DL&W 428
Last reported as Peabody Coal 470(possibly scrapped?)
EMD SW8 b/n: 14064 b/d: 8/51
Last report as Pittsburgh Steel 7
Ex-EL 361, DL&W 501
was Indiana Harbor Belt #7601?
from around 2001/2002..can anyone confirm?
Last reported asNova Chemicals W111(possibly in Ohio)
Ex-Relco RE-1205, CR 9213, EL 406, Erie 406
Last reported stored at RMDI in Pittston, PA
Ex-Blue Moutain & Reading 1000, CR 9220, EL 413, nee Erie 413.
(This unit was confimed scrapped in 2011.)
Last reported as PTRD(?) 8860
Ex-Beth Energy 8860, CR 8860, EL 428, Erie 428
Last reported as Heritage Line Asphalt Materials 1
Ex-CR 8864, EL 432, Erie 432
Last reported as Lukens Steel44, mid-90’s.
Ex-Brandywine Valley 8201(1st)
Last reported as Pacific Harbor Line 9321; Sold?
EMD SW1200 b/n: 23769 b/d: 6/57
History: Ex-CR 9327, EL 463, DL&W 568
Morcher photo from 1998.
was she being rebuilt or scrapped?
Last reported as Island Creek Coal/Pond Fork Mines no#
Ex-EL 544, DL&W 485
82 known surviving EL locomotives, as of August 2016
DL&W steam locomotives - 2 preserved.
1 Alco/GE Boxcab - preserved
1 Alco HH660 - operating
5 Alco S1 - 1 stored, 2 operating/preserved, 1 operating, 1 display
5 Alco S2 - 4 operating, 1 preserved
1 Alco S4 - 1 operating
5 Alco RS3 - 3 operating, 1 stored, 1 preserved
5 Alco C424 - 3 operating, 2 OOS.
6 Alco C425 - 4 operating, 2 OOS.
3 GE U34CH - 1 preserved
1 EMD SC - 1 operating.
4 EMD SW1 - 4 operating.
3 EMD NW2 - 2 operating, 1 stored.
3 EMD SW8 - 3 operating.
4 EMD SW9 - 4 operating.
6 EMD SW1200 - 6 operating.
1 EMD E8 - 1 stored servicable
4 EMD GP7 - 3 operating, 1 status unknown (all now GP8, rebuilt by CR)
2 EMD GP35 - 2 rebuilt to SD39-2M in Chile.
3 EMD SD45 - 1 preserved, restored to full EL colors! 1 is a testbed. 1 operating in Mexico.
6 EMD SDP45 - 3 operating (rebuilt), 1 preserved in a museum, 2 stored.
11 EMD SD45-2 - 11 operating.
good preservation candidates here!
AC&J - Ashtabula, Carson & Jefferson
ADM - Archer Daniels Midland
ALL - America Latina Logistica, Brazil (the two U34CH units)
B&H - Bath & Hammondsport
BR&W - Black River & Western
BVRY - Brandywine Valley Railroad
CB&G - Consolidated Grain & Barge.
CEI - Cleveland Electric Illuminating.
CMGN - Central Michigan Railway
CR - Conrail
DL - Delaware-Lackawanna (Not the same railroad as the DL&W!)
DL&W - Delaware, Lackawanna & Western
DMM - Dansville & Mount Morris
DRSX - DOT Rail Services
ECRX - Econo Rail
GH - Gifford Hill
GMS - Global Material Services
HA - Hanson Aggregates
HCRR - Honey Creek Railroad, Indiana shortline.
HVRM - Hoosier Valley Railroad Museum
GBW - Green Bay & Western
GTI - Guilford
HRR - Housatonic railroad
L&I - Louisville & Indiana Railroad
LAL - Livonia, Avon & Lakeville
LE - Louisana Eastern
M&O - Morse & Ory
MDDE - Maryland & Delaware Railroad
MGCo - Morristown Grain Co. Morristown, Indiana.
MHWA - Mohawk, Adirondack & Northern
MNNR - Minnesota Commercial
MK - Morrison Knudson
MST - Mid South Terminal
MSRW - Mississippian Railway
NRE - National Railway Equipment
NS - Norfolk Southern
NYCH - New York Cross Harbor
NY&A - New York & Atlantic
OC - Ohio Central
PCH - Port Colbourne Harbor
PHL - Pacific Harbor Line
R&N - Reading & Northern
SS - Standard Steel
ST - Springfield Terminal
SQVR - Sequatchie Valley Railroad
UM&P - Upper Merion & Plymouth
UFC - United Farmers Co-op
UTLX - Union Tank Car
notes and roster updates:______________________________________________________
DL&W RS3 902, 910, 911, 912 and 914 are currently RS3M units. rebuilt by CR 1977-1979.
Erie GP7 1207.
rebuilt to GP8 by Conrail @Silvis 1978
CMGN 9210 leaves town...
Paul Cameron reports that Central Michigan Railway has sold GP-8 #9210 and it is heading south today (3/7/2003).
9210 left Bay City for Durand this morning to be forwarded to the CN.
It has been reportedly sold to an elevator in southern Illinois.
This leaves its sibling 9209 out of service at North Bay City with major generator problems.
9209 is also looking for a buyer. These two GP-8's on the CMGN lasted just over ten years, having entered service later in 1992.
2007 - Erie GP7 1207 is operating with "Consolidated Grain and Barge"
Naples, IL - still numbured 9210.
9210 is - current CB&G 9210 - ex CMGM 9210 - ex CR 5447 - ex EL 1207 - nee Erie 1207
Consolidated Grain and Barge facility.
9209 is - current CB&G 9209 - ex CMGM 9209 - ex CR 5440 - ex CR 5756 - ex PC 5786 - nee NYC 5786
the late 70's to become GP8's.
EL SD45 3632 still survives as a testbed unit in the NS Altoona yard.
it is used to load test engines.
This was one of the 2 Bicentennial units!
Update: At some point, 3632's number was changed from Q#1 to NS 1000.
DRSX 1210 (EL 456) is at the Centrex Industrial Park, Northlake, IL (Chicago)
"Ex-Minnesota Commercial C424M’s 62 & 63(Ex-D&H 462 & 463, nee-EL 2405 & 2408) is reported as stored at National Railway Equipment.
Future doesn’t look bright for these Alcos, probably will be stripped for parts."
EL SD45-2 3680 was retired by CSX in 2005, and was in the CSX Huntington, West Virginia shops deadline in April of 2005.
on November 11, 2005 this engine, along with other CSX engines that had been in the deadline,
were shipped to the Ohio Central!
December 2011 - Sadly EL SD45-2 3680 was scrapped
at Larry's Truck & Electric, in McDonald, Ohio.
EL 3380 - built 1/73, builders # 38755
to Conrail 4180 4/1/76
to NJDOT 4180 12/2/76
sold back to Conrail in 1994, when all U34CH retired by NJDOT.
To Alstom 4180 (date?)
went to Mexico at
some point. (date?)
Was at RMDI at some point. (date?)
was in Irondale,
Alabama, at Norris Yard Diesel Shop , on 4/20/2006
future fate uncertain.
Last seen in
Illinois on 4-19-2007.
Sent to Brazil in 2008
EL 3367 - built 4/71,
to Conrail 4167 4/1/76
to NJDOT 4167 12/2/76
sold back to Conrail in 1994, when all U34CH retired by NJDOT.
To Alstom 4167 (date?)
Was in Mexico, operating with Alstom in December 2003.
Was spotted in
Texas on June 5, 2006, destination unknown.
see this thread.
Last seen in
Illinois on 4-19-2007.
Sent to Brazil in 2008
These two units
were both in Mexico with Alstom, came BACK to the USA, for reasons
unknown, around 2006,
and were last spotted in Illinois, on April 19, 2007, together in the same consist, and both still in Alstom silver paint
and still numbured 4167 and 4180.
Both units were reported
Brazil in 2008.
current status unknown. but reports say they might be parts units,
and its possible they will be, (or are already) scrapped.
Alco S1 315 is on display in Galena, Kansas.
apparently it is privately owned, on private property, but is easily visable from a public road.
I found the following info on-line:
"An Alco Erie
is "on display" in Galena. It is not really on display
since it is private but is completely visible. I spoke with a lady from the
Galena Historical Museum and she said the engine had been there as
long as she could remember but was owned by whoever owned the lot on which it sits."
EL SDP45 3665, was wrecked as the lead unit in a head-on collision in Bertram, California on Nov 10 2007.
The unit was officially numbured UP 2770 "on paper" at the time, but might have been still been physically wearing her old number, SP 8694.
Reports say the unit will likely be scrapped, but scrapping has not been confirmed as of June 2008.
(nee EL 3665) (CR 6696) (rebuilt VMV) (last
as SP 8694)
(was assigned UP 4730, then
UP 2770, but probably never wore those numbers.)
update, September 2014, EL 3665 has been confirmed scrapped:
Notes: Built as EL SDP45; rebuilt by M-K as SP 8694 on 1/16/95. Wrecked 11/10/07 on RVVCGC-07 at Bertram, CA, retired by UP 11/26/07. Scrapped at Bertram, CA.
Concerning EL 423 (BVRY 8201, 2nd) an EMD NW2.
The unit was operating with BVRY, but I recieved an email from Greg Kulp who said the unit has been stripped down,
and is being converted to a "Captive Unit"
Greg says: "A captive loco is similar to a slug. It draws power from a 2 conductor 250 VDC catenary, is radio controlled,
and has a compressor for its air brakes. Four old ALCO S2's are currently in such service, due to be replaced with the above NW2's plus 2 other EMD's.
At least a little good news, some components and sheet metal from both above NW2's have been (or will be)
donated to the Reading Co. Technical & Historical Society for use in their NW2 (RDG 103)."
Concerning Erie/EL 518, Alco S2.
This locomotive was first listed on this webpage as AC&J 518, (Ashtabula, Carson & Jefferson Railroad), located in Astabula Ohio.
The unit was purchased by the French Creek Valley Railroad Historical Society in 2012:
The prime mover and traction motors were removed by the AC&J, prior to the sale, for use on other Alcos.
then the locomotive, minus those parts, was purchased by the FCVRRHS, and moved to their site in Meadville PA in 2012.
The locomotive is now on display coupled to ELHS caboose C-356.
Photos of the move of the Alco S2: http://www.fcvrrhs.org/equipment.htm
the FCVRRHS is repainting the locomotive back into it's original Erie black & yellow scheme.
August 2016, two EL SDP45's are continuing their careers with new owners!
|EL 3657||EMD SDP45||7-1970||36561||EL 3657||YCR SD45-2 332||MRL blue||operating
3657) (CR 6688) (Wrecked 11/11/73 rebuilt with SD45-2 long hood)
(MK 9512) (MRL 332) (YCR 332)*note 13
EL SDP45 3657,
the unit with the SD45-2 replacement long hood, was sold to the Yakima
Central in March 2016.
Remaining in MRL paint for now, but has YCR reporting marks.
The original SDP45 longhood was replaced in 1973, while the unit was still with EL, by a SD45-2 longhood because of a wreck.
However both EL, and then Conrail, both still classified the unit as a SDP45.
However at some point MRL dropped the SDP45 classification and re-classed the unit as a SD45-2, which is the classification
it is currently wearing with YCR in 2016. Nothing physical on the unit changed between Conrail and MRL ownership to warrant the reclassification, it is probably
simply that MRL felt the SDP45 classification wasnt necessary, and just simplified it to SD45-2. However the unit was built new as a SDP45, not a SD45-2.
It differs from the EL units that were built new as SD45-2's mainly in the fuel tank.
|EL 3666||EMD SDP45||8-1970||36884||EL 3666||.||WAMX
(CR 6697) (rebuilt VMV) (SP 8693) (UP 2769)(NREX 2769) (WAMX 4214)
the 2 Reading & Northern SD45-2's have been scrapped.
DL&W GP7 970
still sort of exists as a slug.
(DL&W 970) (EL 1409) (CR 5929) (ATSF 1108:2) (ATSF 108:4) and currently BNSF 3957
personally I dont consider a slug to be a surviving locomotive, but thats just me! ;)
but here she is anyway, still worthy of being listed.
Oddly, there are
E-units painted in Erie & DL&W colors that were not originally
Erie or DL&W locomotives at all!
“Erie 834” URHS of NJ, painted as Erie 834, originally NYC, was never actually an Erie unit.
“Erie 835” URHS of NJ, painted as Erie 835, originally PRR, was never actually an Erie unit.
"DL&W 807" CNYRHS, painted as DL&W 807, originally PRR. was never actually a DL&W unit.
"DL&W 808" CNYRHS, painted as DL&W 808, originally PRR. was never actually a DL&W unit.
(I wish museums wouldn’t do this..but at least they didn’t give them REAL former Erie or DL&W numbers..so that’s helpful..I guess. )
reason, there was once a SD24 painted in DL&W colors!
Steamtown did it. (they should know better than that! ;)
the real Lackawanna never owned a SD24.
the unit is now in a museum in Green Bay.
here is a photo of the unit in Lackawanna colors!
Update, Summer 2010.
Sadly an EL Alco S2 was scrapped in Pontiac, IL.
but her parts were used to keep EL S1 #310 alive.
Survivor count drops from 91 to 90 units.
Nee Erie 524
to EL 524
to Relco 1019
Was last used in Pontiac, IL as Relco 1019
scrapped Summer 2010
loco has been lost, one of the big SD45-2's.
EL 3680 was scrapped at Larry's Truck & Electric in McDonald, OH, in December 2011.
EL 3680 went to Conrail 6665 in 1976, then to CSX 8976 in the 1999 split.
CSX retired the locomotive in 2005, and in November 2005 it became Ohio Central 8976.
The unit sat stored on the OC for several years, until the Genesee & Wyoming bought the OC in 2008.
3680 didnt "make the cut" (it might not have been operable) and the unit was sold to Larrys Truck & Electric,
where it was scrapped in December 2011.
||EL 3680||EMD SD45-2||10-1972||7381-12||EL 3680||Ohio Central||Conrail blue||(EL 3680)
(CR 6665) (CSX 8976) (OC 8976) *note 6 - scrapped December 2011
||EL 3663||EMD SDP45||8-1970||36881||EL 3663||RMDI||CR blue||(EL 3663)
(CR 6694) (mexico) (RMDI) - Scrapped at RMDI, Pittston, PA, January 2012
Update, September 2014.
Sadly three EL
SDP45's are reported scrapped recently:
EL 3665 was wrecked on 11/10/07 numbured SP 8694, and was scrapped in Bertram PA sometime between 2007 and 2014.
EL 3654 was scrapped at Webb City Montana in June 2014, as UP 2767
EL 3662 was scrapped at Webb City Montana in June 2014, as UP 2771
|EL 3654||EMD SDP45||7-1970||36558||EL 3654||UP system||UP SD40M-2 2767||UP||scrapped
||(EL 3654) (CR 6685) (rebuilt VMV) (SP 8691) (UP 2767)|
||EL 3662||EMD SDP45||8-1970||36880||EL 3662||UP system||UP SD40M-2 2771||UP||scrapped
||(EL 3662) (CR 6693) (rebuilt VMV) (SP 8695) (UP 2771)|
||EL 3665||EMD SDP45||8-1970||36883||EL 3665||UP system||UP SD40M-2 2770||SP patch||scrapped - *note10||(EL 3665) (CR 6696) (rebuilt VMV) (SP 8694) (UP 2770)|
EL total survivor
count drops from 88 to 85 units.
EL SDP45 survivior total drops from 9 to 6 units.
||EL 2412||Alco C424||1963||84553||EL 2412||LAL 427||GBW Red||(EL 2412) (GBW 320) (LAL 427:1)|
|EL 2415||Alco C424||1963||84557||EL 2415||LAL 428||GBW Red||(EL 2415) (GBW 321) (LAL 428:1)|
survivior total drops from 7 to 5 units.
EL total survivor count drops from 85 to 83 units.
Update, November 2015.
The last complete and essentially unmodified EL GP35, and the only remaining EL GP35 in North America, has been scrapped. :(
EL 2563, last known as WAMX 3542, was scrapped by the Eastern Idaho railroad in 2015.
||EL 2563||EMD GP35||8-1965||330596||EL 2563||Rupert, Idaho||WAMX 3524||EI Orange||OOS||(EL 2536)(CR 3669)(Eastern Idaho 3669) (Watco 3524)|
Her engine was
saved! and was installed in another GP35. (I dont know what locomotive
The rest of the locomotive was then scrapped. confirmed by a WAMX employee in November 2015.
Now the only
reamining EL GP35's are the two units in Chili, South America, which
have been heavily modified.
EL total survivor count drops from 83 to 82 units.
The status of Erie Alco S2 number 518 was updated. see *note 12 above for details.
Update, August 2016.
The status of two EL SDP45's have changed! see *note 13 above for the details.
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and special thanks to John Komanesky, who supplied much of the industrial loco data.
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