
| NY Alcos. Alco movements and migrations. This
page is a sub-page of the NY
Alcos site. 2005 1.)
a reported leased Alco S2 at Fox Ridge, NY. north of Auburn.
2.)
NYSEG #8, Alco S2, former LIRR 453, at Milliken station, Ludlowville.
3.)
Alco C420 was in Jamesville, NY 4.)
Minnesota Commercial M630 # 73 arrived in Falconer, on the WNY&P,
5.)
NYLE Alco S2 #85 is now in Titusville, PA 6.)
WNYP C430 #430, former Susquehanna 3000, was repainted into LAL family
colors 7.)
LAL 424 was also sent west to Falconer, with #430, on 12/27/05.
note! (424 and 430 didnt actually make it to Falconer on 12/27/05..see note #9 below) 8.)
WNYP 631 - MLW M630 - stored in Cohocton as of 12/31/2005.
2006 9.)
January 10, 2006 - turns out WNYP 430 and LAL 424 didnt actually make
it
to Falconer afterall. 10.)
January 18, 2006
The units arent going to stay in these new locations for long, here is
where they Informed
sources indicate: 10.)
January 21, 2006 11.)
February 1, 2006 12.)
Delaware-Lackawanna Alco C420 #334 moved to the Scranton, PA shops in
February,
2006. 13.)
May 2006. Depew, Lancaster & Western RS11 1804 appeared on the
Falls
Road 14.)
June 2006, got a report from our intrepid Binghamton reporter Andy B.
that 15.)
June 2006, Two of the NYCH Alco S1's leave NY state for NJ.
NYCH 11, Currently forsale
11 is ex Massena Terminal 11
- Paul Strubeck" 16,)
June 21, 2006, LAL 421 leaves Avon bound for Falconer, with the
Traveler
in tow. 17.)
July 28, 2006 - LAL 432 (Alco C430) arrives in Lakeville from
Falconer, 18.)
2006 - NYCH Alco S4 #11 was scrapped. 19.)
LAL 433 (Former Susquehanna Alco C430 3006) is in the LAL Lakeville
shop
summer 2006. 20.)
August 10, 2006. New York Cross Harbor Alco S1 #25 floated across New
York
Harbor 21.)
December 12, 2006 - B&H 2-6-0 steamer #11 was sold to the Everett
Railroad
in 2006, 22.)
Sometime in 2006, NYLE 6101 - Alco C425 - was sold to the
Delaware-Lackawanna
and 23.) Sometime in 2006, MHWA 2453 - Alco C425 - moved to Scranton. 24.)
Sometime in 2006, South Buffalo Alco S2 #77, owned by the WNYRHS, moved
from New York state lost 5 Alcos during 2006. 2007 25.)
March 2007 - Trigen ALCO S-6 #2 spotted in the FGLK Geneva, NY
yard,
sent there to 26.) May 8, 2007 - Trigen ALCO S-6 #2 leaves Geneva heading back to Solvay. 27.) May 8, 2007 - NYSW M636 3666 spotted back in service. she was given a new computer. 28.)
June 26, 2007 - after many years in Victor, NY, Ontario Central
Alco
RS36 418 leaves Summer
2007 - Lots of activity going on in NY Alco Land! :)
29.)
July 2007 - BSOR
Alco S2's 84 and 107 are moved (a short distance) from their
30.)
July 12, 2007 - The M420TR
that has been sitting in Jamesville for years is finally
31.)
July 20, 2007 - The first of the potential Thirteen new LAL Alcos
arrives
in Lakeville. 32.)
August 1, 2007 - Rumours
abound that NYSW might sell its Utica shop.
33.)
August 3, 2007 - The 2nd and 3rd of the potential Thirteen new LAL
Alcos
arrive in Cohocton,
The eight NYSW Cartier units are gathering in small herds, hopefully to
34.)
August 2007 - The Fourth new Alco of 2007 joins the LAL roster.
Former
SIXX 73, August
3, 2007 - the WNYP opens its new line from Machias Jct. to Driftwood,
PA
on the
35.) August 2007 - LAL RS1 #20 goes into storage in Lakeville, needs wheel work. 36.)
August 18, 2007 - The first of the three Cartier units arrive back in
Cohocton! 37.) September 14, 2007 - Two more Cartier units arrive in Cohocton, 3670 and 3674. 38.)
September 17, 2007 - Two more Cartier units arrive in Cohocton, 3660
and
77. 39.)
September 19, 2007 - RRPX 4428, a C424, arrives in Cohocton.
40.)
October 6, 2007 - The first of the Cartier units is back in service
with
the WNYP!
A total of 4 alcos moved from Cohocton to Olean on 10/6/2007.
41.)
November 8, 2007 - The last of the 8 Cartier units, 3672, arrives in
Cohocton 42.)
November 24, 2007 - Two GVT
Alcos arrive in New York state from Scranton:
S6 1044 will replace MLW RS18 1801 in Batavia. 1801 will be sent back
to
Scranton.
Also in November 2007, the DLWR in Batavia moved into its new
facilities,
a former End of year summary for 2007
Wow,
2007 was a busy year in NY Alco land! :) The
big news was that all eight of the "Cartier engines" transferred from
the
Susquehanna A
total of 13 new units join the LAL/WNYP during 2007!
The
M420TR, RHXS 27, finally shows some activity, as it is moved from
Jamesville
to Utica, Much
activity finally began on the "Colonie Alcos" during 2007.
New
York State loses three "Alco locations" on the map during 2007.
Second,
Binghamton, NY.. Third, Jamesville, NY, which only contained the M420TR, which has now moved to Utica. But
NY state gains a new "Alco Location" on the map during 2007!
NYSW
becomes Alco-free during 2007, for the second, and probably last time.
Six
Alcos entered NY state from outside: 2008 43.)
March 2008 - Western Maryland Alco FA2 No. 302 finally escapes Colonie!
44.) April 8, 2008 - Lots of Alcos on the WNYP reported OOS with various ailments:
630 had turbo failure and now is having air compressor worked on.
45.)
April, May, June or July 2008 - After spending two years on the Falls
Road,
doing the 46.) May 2008
- Arkansas & Missouri Alco C424's number 32 and 34 arrive
in NY state, on 47.) July 2008 - WNYP 421 is back in service. 48.) July 2008 - WNYP 630 is back in service. 49.)
August 14, 2008 - LAL
418 returns to service in Lakeville. She was doing test runs
50.)
August 22, 2008 - Trigen
Alco S6 No. 2 is spotted in Geneva again, having some work
51.)
August 23, 2008 - WNYP 631 returns to service! reported
testing out of Cohocton. 52.) August 2008 - Buffalo Southern Alco C420 No. 2010 is
taken out of service for 53.) September 4, 2008 - WNYP 631 leaves Cohocton and heads over to Olean. 54.)
September - WNYP 637 and 638, the next two Cartier engines in line, are
returned to 55.)
September 5, 2008 - WNYP 631 is back
in service. When
we began 2008, only one of the eight "Cartier engines" on the LAL/WNYP
was operating, 56.)
September 10, 2008 - Another Cartier unit returns to operation!
57.)
September 15, 2008 - Five days later sister unit WNYP 637 joins 638 for
a testing
run 58.)
September 24, 2008 - 637 and 638 head
west to Olean, making FIVE total of the big
59.)
October 10, 2008 - WNYP C430 No. 432 is back
in service in Lakeville.
Two Alcos left NY state during 2008: Western
Maryland Alco FA2 No. 302 finally escaped the Colonie death pit! she
headed down to West Virginia to begin restoration..very good news. And DLWR RS11 1804 But two new Alcos entered the state during 2008! so there
was no
net loss of units, But there was a gain in operating
units during 2008! WNYP 631 All three refurbished in Cohocton then sent west to Olean. and LAL 432 also returns to service in Lakeville, making a
total of 17 active LAL Alcos at the end of 2008, compared to only 13
active at the start of 2008. Plus the two A&M units at the Ethanol plant in Fulton,
equals an increase of 6 active Alcos
61.) April 2009 - LAL Alco C424 Number 424 has moved from
Falconer to Cohocton. 62.) April 2009 - MLW M636, Former NYSW 3664, recently
Alco-C 3664, has been relettered 63.) May 11, 2009 - RRPX M636 number 41 leaves
Cohocton and returns to service, heading 64.) June 12, 2009 - WNYP 432 leaves Lakeville and
heads back "home" to the WNYP in 65.) July 14, 2009 - Finally! after many years of no
information, the former South Buffalo http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-frt/bpl32sma.jpg
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Thanks to Ron S. for alerting me to those photos.
(unfortunately, with those links in that particular format, I cant tell the name of the photographer) Based on the buildings in the background, I could determine that those photos show the unit that has been at Outokumpu American Brass Co. for many years..Outokumpu was sold, and is now "Luvata Buffalo, Inc." 70 Sayre Street. The unit is at the Sayre st. facility, and appears to be in use. 66.) July 15, 2009 - RRPX M636 number 43 leaves Cohocton and returns to work! Now making FIVE of the eight big "Cartier units" returned to service! 67.) September 1, 2009 - A re-shuffling of some Locomotive road numbers on the LAL. Steve posted a note on the LAL forum on Railroad.net:
Re: LA&L, WNYP, B&H Diesel Statusby Smtimko on Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:40 pmGreg:
Some notes for your update on the above topic. This info is "official" from an inside source. The three C-424's at Lakeville: # 320, 321 and 319 HAD been assigned WNYP # 427, 428 and 429 (in that order) at one time, but that has changed. They no longer are assigned those 4xx series numbers. Unit #320 will NOT be rebuilt and placed in service. Will continue to be an organ donor for other units. #321 and #319 MAY be rebuilt at a much later date. If so, new numbers will be assigned at that time. Unit #550 will be assigned WNYP #428. Unit #4228 is OWNED by WNYP and will be renumbered WNYP 435. Unit #4223 is OWNED by WNYP and will be renumbered WNYP 434. Unit #4264 will become WNYP #427. The current management team has taken a more realistic look at the line's traffic levels and is proceeding as above. SMT This now means that the three stored units in Lakeville no longer have road numbers, for the forseeable future. Also several operating units have recieved new numbers. I have updated the main page to reflect these changes. the three stored units: Alco C424m - LAL 427, ex-GBW 320, nee EL 2412 Alco C424m - LAL 428, ex-GBW 321, nee EL 2415 Alco C424m - LAL 429, ex-GBW 319, nee PRR 2415, (the only C424 PRR owned.) Never officially wore those LAL numbers..they were numbers "on paper" only. None of the three have yet operated with the LAL, they have been stored alongside the Lakeville enginehouse ever since they arrived in September 2002. (the three units were sold to LAL by GBW in 2001, arrived in Lakeville Sep 2002) LAL roster increases by 2 units, from 26 units to 28 units, as two former leased units offically join the roster, the new WNYP 434 and WNYP 435. I changed the model number of:
to:
Because WNYP 630 was Canadian built, not Schenectady..which would make her a MLW C630m, not an Alco C630m. MLW did produce some Century series locomotives that were given a "C" designation, as in C630, instead of a M designation, as in M630...All Schenectady built locos were given a "C", but MLW-built locos could have a "C" or an "M" designation, depending on the year built.. Canadian locos were labeled "C", along with their American sisters, until the end of Schenectady production in 1969. At that point, MLW production switched to the "M" designation. 64.) October 2009 - GVT RS11 3603 is confirmed scrapped. (I got conformation from GVT) the unit was a parts engine that sat in Lancaster, NY on the DLWR for many years.
plant in Depew in 2007, and was cut up there in 2009. the nose of the unit is sitting in Lockport yard, for reasons unknown. 68.) October 2009 - from a relaible source: MHWA 2454 in Carthage, along with 642. MHWA 805 and 2456 in Utica. 69.) December 2009 - Bath & Hammondsport (LAL) number 422 has moved from her normal assignmant in Cohocton over to Lakeville for some work in the shop. She was spotted around the Lakeville yard and out on the road up to Rochester a few times in December. (422 is the only one of the Centuries lettered for the B&H) End of year summary for 2009 A relatively "slow" year! generally things stayed about the same..which is good news! Two MLW's were returned to service this year, and no Alcos entered or left the state in 2009, although one was scrapped. We lost DLWR Alco RS11 number 3603, which was a parts unit for many years. (it probably never actually operated with DLWR) the unit was scrapped in Depew. We "gained" a new Alco S3! the only one in the state! Tonawanda Coke number 1976. It has actually been in the state since 1978, but it was listed as a "mystery" loco in past years. we finally confirmed its existance in 2009. Two more of the big MLW's were returned to service in 2009! MLW M636 RRPX 41 in May, and sister M636 RRPX 43 in July. Both were returned to service by the LAL shop forces in Cohocton, and went to work with their siblings out on the WNYP. Making Five of the eight "Cartier units" returned to service! leaving only three still OOS in Cochocton. (3660, 3662, and 3674.) (It is still believed 3660 and 3662, the two C636 demonstrators, will likely never return to service) LAL did some number shuffling, and a few units were re-classified on this list. overall, a good year for NY Alcos! 2010
70.) January 2010 - RRPX 43 sneaks out of the state, and heads to the B&P Butler, PA shops, probably for some wheel work. (thats the reason other LAL/WNYP units have gone to Butler before.) 71.) February 1, 2010 - LAL units are spotted with new 45th anniversary decals applied! So far, LAL 418, 420, 423, 424, and 425 have the new Anniversary logos. another photo. 72.) February 18, 2010 - LAL 420 and 425, the regular Rochester road set, are seen operating in an unusual "both cabs inward" configuration. 73.) March 22, 2010 - WNYP Alco C430 No. 430 is reported OOS with a bad traction motor. 74.) May 2010 - The big MLW C630M, No. 2028, photo, is scrapped in Cohocton. This unit arrived at the B&H/LAL shops in Cohocton "for evaluation" on January 22, 2010. the unit was probably always intended for parts, she was used as a parts source for the last Cartier MLW being returned to service in Cohocton (3674) Parts were removed from 2028, and the remains were scrapped in Cohocton in May. MLW C630M, serial number M3497-2 nee Canadian National 2028 - built March 1968. to Cape Breton & Central Nova Scotia 2028 (in 1993) to IBCX (Indiana Boxcar) 2028 (in 2001) brought to Cohocton, NY, for parts, in January 2010. Scrapped May 2010, Cohocton, NY (the two Alco C636 Demonstrators, 3660 and 3662, are still in Cohocton as well, but there are no plans, at present, to return either to service.) 76.) April 30, 2010 - Staten Island Railway Alco S1 No. 407 leaves Staten Island, and is shipped by truck to its new home, the Catskill Mountain Railroad in Mount Tremper, NY. She is now the new CMRR No. 407. She arrived May 6, 2010. 76.) June 21, 2010 - The second Staten Island Alco, SIRT 821, leaves Staten Island and is trucked to its new home, the Upper Hudson River Railroad, in North Creek, NY. (status of the two locomotives in early 2010)
This leaves no Alcos on Staten Island! but neither is leaving NY state! which is good news..both 407 and 821 will likely be used in excursion service by their new owners. I will remove staten Island from the map, and add Mount Tremper! 76.) June 24, 2010 - Added a mysterious MLW M420(W) to the NYLE Roster, even thought she (probably) isnt in NY state:
anyone know the story? and why isnt she in Gowanda? 77.) September 2010 - JRWX 111, a leased Alco S4, arrives at the Suez powerplant in Solvay. 78.) October 2010 - RRPX 85 - MLW M636, is returned to service by the LAL shops in Cohocton, and heads over to Olean to join her sisters on the WNYP. Now all six of the M636's are back in service! Only the two Alco C636 demonstrators remain in Cohocton. (no current plans for them) 79.) November 2010 - RRPX 2338, ex CN 2338, a MLW M636, arrives on the WNYP in Olean. 80.) December 2010 - A new locomotive for the Adirondack Scenic arrives. the new Adirondack No. 1845, a MLW RS18u, arrives in Utica. End of year summary for 2010 2010 was a busy year! Sadly, one Alco was scrapped in NY state during 2010, MLW C630M 2028, scrapped in Cohocton. Two Alcos migrated to new homes in 2010! The two Staten Island locomotives. RRPX 85 - MLW M636, is returned to service by the LAL shops in Cohocton, and heads over to Olean And three new Alcos came into NY from the outside! and all three are (or will be soon) operating locomotives. The New York State Alco population increases by three units, from 126 to 129 units.
2011 81.) February 12, 2011 - RRPX 85 leaves Olean for the B&P shops in Butler, PA for some 82.) March 2011 - a new Alco arrives in NY state! The new Adirondack 1835, a MLW RS18u, 83.) March 2011 - MHWA MLW M420W is renumbured from MHWA 642 to MHWA 2042 84.) April
2011 - The Upper Hudson River Railway ran its last excursions in 2010,
and ceased to exist on December 31, 2010, when their lease ran out, and
was not renewed. The UHRR existed for 12 seasons, 1999 to 2010.. A new
operator is taking over the line in 2011, the Saratoga & North Creek.
The S&NC begins service July 23, 2011..the three UHRR Alcos are not
being used for the new service, and are stored at North Creek. 85.) May 2011 - Adirondack 1845 (MLW RS18u) recieves a sharp new Black & Green paintscheme. 86.) June 2011 - RRPX 85 is back in Olean. 87.) June 13, 2011 - Posted on Railfan.net 6/13/2011 by smtimko: 88.) June 14, 2011 - WNYP 4228 is listed in service, in Meadville on the WNYP. 89.) June 25, 2011 - LAL 423 is listed OOS for wheel work. 90.) June 25, 2011 - WNYP 631 is listed OOS with "major engine failure" 91.) Note on WNYP units 427, 434 and 435. 4264 became WNYP 427 However, in July 2011, nearly 2 years later, none of the 3 units have yet been renumbured! WNYP Alco C425 No. 4264 (427) is in service in Meadville.
End
of year summary for 2011 2011 was another mostly "status quo" year, which is a good thing! One new Alco arrived in NY state in 2011 (Adirondack 1835) No alcos were scrapped, and one was returned to service
2012 94.) January 2012 - WNYP 428 has been in service on the LAL for 6 months, on the road trains to Last
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